We all know we shouldn't do it. But we do it subconsciously because it's a basic human trait, and nobody is exempt from it.
I become increasingly sick and tired of hearing about the corruption in our very own American government, across all branches and states. Stories of governors, congressmen & congresswomen, and voters alike passing and introducing legislation designed to take away what should be regarded as fundamental human rights are far more common than anyone would have predicted just years ago.
Nowhere is this more evident than the armpit of America that is the South. Discrimination and hostility toward women, homosexuals, non-Christians, and non-whites is amongst the highest in the developed world, while poverty, poor health care, low college graduation rates, obesity, and a shoddy economy are all ways of life. On an almost daily basis, Republican-dominated states south of the Ohio River attempt to woo their Caucasian Christian voter base by promising to shut down abortion clinics, prevent same-sex marriages and anti-discrimination laws, and pass bills forcing the population to treat Christianity as the superior belief system and the answer to unanswerable questions. Meanwhile, the bulk of these sick, deranged people, both governmental and civilian, remain deluded in their false interpretation of American history. The founding fathers would be turning in their grave at the sight of some of the most vehement patriots. It's indeed one of the biggest ironies of life.
The governor of North Carolina recently signed a strict anti-abortion bill into law which effectively shuts down all women's health clinics in the state that perform abortions, despite promising to the voters not even a year ago that he would not sign such legislation. This is the result of religious dogma and a tremendous amount of ignorance for basic biology and social science. Women don't get abortions because they want to. They get them because they have to. Humans are still animals with primal instincts, and sexual desire is the result of the animal kingdom's ultimate goal: reproduction. Birth control fails; even the most effective methods. People's lives change. A couple doing well for themselves may suddenly lose all their money or their home, and their environment wouldn't be sufficient for raising a child. Often a woman's health may be in danger if she carries a fetus to full term. So instead of showing some respect, sympathy, and common decency, the state of North Carolina decided it would be better to force women who need abortions to travel elsewhere to get one, draining their financial resources and time. Moreover, many women will now resort to "back-door" abortions which remain illegal and are significantly more dangerous. What's worse, unwanted children who would otherwise not exist will now be flooding foster homes - some never finding adoptive parents, or living in poverty because their family can't afford to take care of them. Would you rather a child grow up hungry, cold, and uneducated, or for it to have never been born in the first place? Ironically, the same people who are anti-abortion are also anti-welfare. Essentially, Republicans care about a fetus more than they care about the child it becomes. And don't get me started on overpopulation.
If you think this is the result of a superiority complex on my part, it's not. As a native Californian, I acknowledge my state has problems just like any other, but I'd much rather have the problems California has than the problems the South does. This is where judging and stereotyping come in. And while much of the country seems to be under the impression that Californians are all tech-savvy, nudist, drug-using, environmentalist hippie surfers, anyone would still have a much harder time judging a state with over 35,000,000 people, with significant populations from all races, religions, creeds, classes, political views, and nationalities, than they would have judging the sparsely-populated South, where the population is almost exclusively racist, intolerant whites and blacks, almost all of which cling to their Bibles and guns more than their own integrity. To the small population of good and well-minded people in the South...do all you can to destroy the corruption plaguing your part of the country if you can't move away. Your success will help secure America's position in the global playing field. Until then...
Do you have a problem with abortions? Don't get one.
Do you have a problem with birth control? Don't use it.
Do you have a problem with gay marriage? Don't marry someone of the same sex.
Do you have a problem with porn? Don't watch it.
Do you have a problem with sex? Don't have it.
Do you have a problem with alcohol? Don't drink it.
Disagree with me? Your loss. Hate me for it? You're doing me a favor.
It was FAR too hot for my taste, and the education sucked so much that my extremely smart brothers were classified as idiots by their teachers because of the education that they had in North Carolina.
Thank GOD we moved back to Pennsylvania before I started my education.
Here's an idea how about Republicans actually approve of welfare reform like the bipartisan bill approved by congress during the Clinton administration. I kind of agree with you Niels, but to me I view it is murder but when its rape or the mother's life is in danger that's when the loophole is to begin. Not everyone in the South is homophobic, racist, or Christian in fact that happens to be a stereotype to people in the South. I happen to have family in Tennessee and they're not racist or homophobic.
Let this be a lesson not everyone agrees with you, but that is no good reason to criminalize people of the South because they don't believe what you believe. Ever heard of something called EDUCATION that's what people are trying to do educate people of religion and law.
This is who I AM. I am a catholic who goes to church every Sunday and on Holydays and I believe in God. I believe that abortion is necessary ONLY when the woman has been raped or her life is endangered. I believe that gays deserve to marry whoever they want, in fact I have a gay uncle who fought in Desert Storm and lives in Florida. Cannibis should be used for medical purposes ONLY. I want immigration reform for illegal immigrants in America just like both Dems and the GOP is trying to do. I want a new healthcare policy that actually has bipartisan support and can actually get the jobs we need and healthcare millions more need now more than ever. I want a president who can actually secure America as a leading world power that is respected and feared. I want a recognizable America that I know I can trust and support and that all people are equal.
Am I asking for too much or what? Niels just try to feels what its like to have a different religion, political belief, sexuality, or nationality then only you could understand what its really like.
If abortion was murder, it would be called murder, and there would be prison sentences. Murder is bad because it takes away the life of someone who can comprehend death and mortality, and takes away the privileges of the family of the person killed. In the case of abortion, a fetus is not considered a living entity for much of its existence, biologically, scientifically, technically, whatever have you. It's in a state called dormancy; the same as seeds and eggs.
You're entitled to your beliefs, but don't force them on others. Making abortion legal is not forcing any agenda on Christians; Christians can still choose not to get an abortion. By making abortion illegal, it forces a religious agenda on everyone, including those who disagree.
I didn't claim everyone agreed with me. I know there are good people in the south; I even have a few such friends. But they need to speak out, stand up, and fight for recognition. Stereotypical southerners never did anyone a favor.
You're not asking for too much. Your opinions are yours, you're entitled to them, and you have every right to keep them or change your mind. As for me not "understanding" what it's like to have different views, my understanding isn't better or worse than any other given person's. However, having friends from many nationalities, sexualities, political beliefs, religions, and creeds, I have a FAR better understanding of humanity, philosophy, and society than most people in the world. I believe in the "live and let live" philosophy. Unfortunately, the GOP does not, and whatever Republicans do are outshadowed or too wimpy to buck up and take a stand.
As an atheist, however, I want you to understand what it's like to live in a country that doesn't even uphold its oldest and most important founding values. I want you to understand how enraged I am that radical Christians want to turn the country into a theocracy. Hell, in some states, atheists are forbidden by law from holding a political office (even though this is not enforced, it still exists). Several polls have shown many Americans distrust atheists more than anyone else, even Muslims. Why is it? It makes no sense. It's because people are ignorant. Ignorant about us, ignorant about society, and ignorant about themselves. Nevertheless, every so often I hear of this bullshit, non-existent "war on Christians." When you go out in public, no matter where in the country you are, you will see and meet several Christians at any given time. You will see them when you turn on the television. You see churches and crosses everywhere. Christians make up almost all of Congress. Christian organizations are exempt from taxes. We have the word "God" arbitrarily added to our pledge of allegiance and on our money. There are tons of Christian schools, and little to no Muslim, Jewish, or Hindu schools. Several "Christian" holidays (even though they actually have their origins outside Christianity) are considered federal or national holidays.
So when someone says there's a "war" on Christianity, you can be sure there will be disagreement. Most Christians take the privileges they have (whether they should exist or not, but mostly not) for granted. So just try to feel what it's like to have a different religion, or lack thereof. Then only you could understand what it's really like.
Atheism is not considered a religion by BOTH democrats and republicans and I think if you really don't like it you don't have to live here. This is one of a few countries where you don't get killed for not believing in whatever belief system other countries try to force on others like Iran and N Korea. Don't you get it 95% of Americans are either Christians, Jewish, or Muslim. Not everyone wants to recognize nonbelievers or atheist as a religion including Jews and Muslims. So don't tell me its only Christians that want to get rid of Roe v Wade or keep "Under God" in the pledge or get rid of "In God We Trust" on our currency when Jews and Muslims want to keep it.
The reason why we added "God" to the pledge and the currency was to combat communism in the Cold War because in the Soviet Union they couldn't worship as they pleased. And by the Catholics of the Catholic Church were persecuted and so were Mormons and Jews some still are in the South because America's majority of Christians are protestants. I am Catholic and you also forgot that many republicans want a war FOR women. Not all republicans are wimpy have you forgotten Mike Huckabee took a stand at the RNC saying that republicans want a WAR FOR WOMEN to protect their rights. Hell I even participated for the march on Washington with my parish community to show our opposition against abortion and Roe v Wade.
Now Niels with all due respect it is important to know that more women including young women are becoming more and more pro-life, even my cousin is having a baby and she is only 20 years old. My aunt spent time a few years ago before she and her husband had their daughter lived in Texas and South Carolina and met people who were nice, caring and showed that Southern hospitality just like that storm that hit the South a few weeks ago when the people who were stuck spent time at a Chick-Fillet to eat and sleep they didn't pay a dime.
My brother lives in Florida and has friends down there and they're hospitable even though they are in the army and so is my brother who spent time in Afghanistan. So don't tell me the South is racist or homophobic that's just a stereotype.
- I already acknowledged that not everyone in the South is racist or homophobic. However, stereotypes are based on reality, so they come from somewhere. Second...Florida is not considered part of the "South," which is often used coterminously with "Deep South" as it is in my context, due to major differences in climate, demographics, culture, food, economy, and industry.
"Now Niels with all due respect it is important to know that more women including young women are becoming more and more pro-life..."
- I don't personally care what movements are "gaining momentum." I don't automatically agree with something just because many or most people do. After all, I'm not a Christian, right?
"...even my cousin is having a baby and she is only 20 years old."
- That's nice. If she's financially secure and in a proper position to take adequate care of it, by all means, let her have her child. That's her choice. If she's not able to take care of it, then unless she puts it up for adoption (which is rather crude), then that's her problem.
"My aunt spent time a few years ago before she and her husband had their daughter lived in Texas and South Carolina and met people who were nice, caring and showed that Southern hospitality just like that storm that hit the South a few weeks ago when the people who were stuck spent time at a Chick-Fillet to eat and sleep they didn't pay a dime."
- I've already mentioned several times that I'm well aware there are decent people in the South as there are anywhere else. However, do keep in mind that I hear a lot of conservatives and fundies rip on Californians and their state and outright refuse to acknowledge their own ignorance or the fact that no two people are the same, no matter where they live.
"The reason why we added "God" to the pledge and the currency was to combat communism in the Cold War because in the Soviet Union they couldn't worship as they pleased. And by the Catholics of the Catholic Church were persecuted and so were Mormons and Jews some still are in the South because America's majority of Christians are protestants."
- I know why it was added. That doesn't mean it makes sense. We're supposed to "stick it to the man" by adding religious text to a secular national allegiance just because their government didn't want people to practice a religion? I'm sorry, but that's a load of horse shit. We didn't scare anybody, we didn't "show them who's boss," we didn't inject any fear into them, and we didn't even antagonize them. The only thing Eisenhower did by adding "under God" into the pledge was step on the constitutional rights of Americans. The Cold War was nothing more than two big, overgrown babies fighting over a toy crown.
"Not all republicans are wimpy have you forgotten Mike Huckabee took a stand at the RNC saying that republicans want a WAR FOR WOMEN to protect their rights. Hell I even participated for the march on Washington with my parish community to show our opposition against abortion and Roe v Wade."
- Women deserve the RIGHT to choose, and many want this. Taking away access to abortion and other services takes away their rights - it does not GIVE them any. Ergo, it's not a war "for" women you claim to be fighting in. It's a war for Christians. Mike Huckabee is among America's biggest losers. I remember he once said ""is the antithesis of the gospel of Jesus Christ." Right, like your religion is the "right one" and Muslims are all "wrong." He even said Muslims were like "uncorked animals." On the Newtown school shooting, he said it happened because "we systematically removed God from our schools." He also equated homosexuality with bestiality and pedophilia. What a retard! And you believe THIS man knows what's in the best interest for people? For WOMEN? No man should claim any authority over the issue of women's rights. Period. He lets a literal translation of an ancient book dictate his politics so he can shove them onto the masses. Mike Huckabee is the ULTIMATE definition of a wimp.
"Atheism is not considered a religion by BOTH democrats and republicans..."
- I never said it was. I don't advocate for atheism. I advocate for secularism. Major difference. We've already discussed it.
"...and I think if you really don't like it you don't have to live here."
Don't like what, exactly? I live in my native country and the only one I have ever called home. I have lived here almost twice as long as you've been alive. I have every right to live here, and I have every right to live in a country that ought to uphold its supreme law by not endorsing one religion over another, and not endorsing religion over no religion and vice versa.
"This is one of a few countries where you don't get killed for not believing in whatever belief system other countries try to force on others like Iran and N Korea."
- Just because our government doesn't advocate the assassination of those with different religious beliefs doesn't mean it doesn't happen. It happens everywhere, and it happens to people of every faith or no faith.
"Don't you get it 95% of Americans are either Christians, Jewish, or Muslim."
- Incorrect. According to Pew, whose numbers are consistent with those of other research groups, 78.4% of Americans identify as Christian, 1.7% are Jewish, 0.6% are Muslims, and 16.1% are unaffiliated (including only 5.8% religious unaffiliated; the rest are secular unaffiliated, agnostic, or atheist). In addition, the number of atheists, agnostics, and secularists is rising every year according to just about every research institute.
"Not everyone wants to recognize nonbelievers or atheist as a religion including Jews and Muslims."
- We don't care if anyone recognizes "atheism" as a religion or not. We don't believe it is a religion.
"So don't tell me its only Christians that want to get rid of Roe v Wade or keep "Under God" in the pledge or get rid of "In God We Trust" on our currency when Jews and Muslims want to keep it."
- First off, where is your source for this last statement? Fact is, Jews and Muslims have almost no influence on social issues in the United States, so even if they didn't want to remove religious references from money and the pledge, it wouldn't make a difference. Given that the overwhelming majority of the voting bloc is Christian, and Congress is almost exclusively Christian, you're going to have to do a lot more to convince me it really isn't just Christians. Frankly, I know Christians who are opposed to having "God" in our pledge and on our money because they agree it violates the first amendment and alienates people with different views because it's a government endorsement.
Let's get something straight. When loaded right-wingers snatch up control of the legislature and start passing laws endorsing their religion and limiting other people's rights, religion becomes everybody's business. It's just as much my business as it is yours. Unlike many Christians, most atheists aren't trying to pass laws that endorse atheism. They want laws that endorse SECULARISM. Again, we talked about the difference already. They also want laws that obey our Constitution. There should be a clear and distinct separation between church and state, because that's what everybody, from atheists and Christians to Jews and Muslims, is entitled to.
You are not an authority on Christianity. You cannot speak for all Christians. I'm not an authority on atheism and I cannot speak for all atheists. I'm just as entitled to talk about Christianity as much as you're entitled to talk about atheism. "Too bad" my dick, Miles. You will not impose my freedom of speech. There are PLENTY of people who know far more about religion in general, including Christianity, who are not Christian. People go into religious studies; some of whom don't even have a religion, because they're intrigued by its history and psychology. Frankly, I probably know more about the history of religion and Christianity than you do. I went to Sunday school and church for a while as a kid. So, frankly, you telling me it's not my business is the same as me telling you that Pennsylvania is none of your business.
Plus, IIRC, the Quakers in western PA are also responsible for choosing Rick Santorum to represent them in the Senate. Bet they're regretting giving him the House opportunity over in Allegheny County.
A statement issued by the Supreme Court by Justice Waite in 1878 states "Freedom of religion means freedom to hold an opinion or belief, but not to take action in violation of social duties or subversive to good order."
Atheism and religions are both opinions and beliefs, but not factual. Agnosticism is an opinion and not a belief, but IS factual. Nobody is 100% certain there is a higher power. Some people claim they know for sure, but they're deluded. They only THINK there is. Therefore, every human is an agnostic in the form of factual knowledge, but BELIEF is where OPINIONS differ. EVERYONE is entitled to their beliefs.
Atheism and theism are both faith-driven. Agnosticism is fact-driven, as the presence of a god is neither proven or unproven. We are not capable of knowing the ultimate truth regarding deities with the information we are given
SOPA/PIPA murdering OCs like your Niels that was a horrible thing they did
Not giving money to Guatemala who live in trash that was a horrible they did
this............... no that SOPA/PIPA thing was still the worst
Why not Texas? Because everyone in America either loves Texas or hates it, and people more or less expect the Texas government to pull stupid shit like this, so I wouldn't be reporting anything new or changing anyone's minds. I'd had enough about this shit when I saw about what was going on in the Tar Heel State, which is still much more a swing state than Texas ever was.